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	<description>Ron's the name.  Aviation's the game.</description>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/03/a-day-at-medfly/comment-page-1/#comment-54956</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The regions are simply blocks of airspace.  It&#039;s not an FAA thing, it&#039;s something set up for the Medfly program by the CDFA.

However, we fly every day, so the FAA controllers have been provided with an overlay of where those regions are.   They can press a button and see our region map on their screen.  This makes communicating with them much easier.

The map is not a secret, but neither is it published anywhere that I know of.  The regions are numbered 1 through 33, and consist of either north/south or east/west passes.  We use a GPS-based device called an AgNav (which was originally designed for crop dusting) to fly the specific passes requested by the CDFA.

We also have temporary regions setup anywhere they find a specific number of wild Medflies.  Recently we&#039;ve had such regions in Escondido, Mira Mesa, and down by Brown Field.  A year or so ago, we had regions in San Jose and near Travis AFB.

The job requires an interesting mix of creativity, precision, and diplomacy when dealing with the controllers.  We have to try our best to fly what the CDFA wants while still being considerate of ATC&#039;s operations.  We virtually cannot operate without their assent.

Right now, many of the controllers are trainees.  Also, at times certain frequencies are combined and larger parcels of airspace are worked by a single controller.  Some controllers are comfortable with things that others are not.  You get to know the voices on the frequency.  Perhaps they do as well. :)

Weather plays a big factor, too.  When LAX and/or Ontario are landing to the east, John Wayne to the north, etc. it causes a lot of headaches for the controllers, and that can impact our operations.  So sometimes we fly higher.  Or lower.  Or we fly a different region.  We cannot drop flies if the OAT is below freezing, and we have to fly the regions under VFR, although we do make use of IFR-to-VFR-on-top quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The regions are simply blocks of airspace.  It&#8217;s not an FAA thing, it&#8217;s something set up for the Medfly program by the CDFA.</p>
<p>However, we fly every day, so the FAA controllers have been provided with an overlay of where those regions are.   They can press a button and see our region map on their screen.  This makes communicating with them much easier.</p>
<p>The map is not a secret, but neither is it published anywhere that I know of.  The regions are numbered 1 through 33, and consist of either north/south or east/west passes.  We use a GPS-based device called an AgNav (which was originally designed for crop dusting) to fly the specific passes requested by the CDFA.</p>
<p>We also have temporary regions setup anywhere they find a specific number of wild Medflies.  Recently we&#8217;ve had such regions in Escondido, Mira Mesa, and down by Brown Field.  A year or so ago, we had regions in San Jose and near Travis AFB.</p>
<p>The job requires an interesting mix of creativity, precision, and diplomacy when dealing with the controllers.  We have to try our best to fly what the CDFA wants while still being considerate of ATC&#8217;s operations.  We virtually cannot operate without their assent.</p>
<p>Right now, many of the controllers are trainees.  Also, at times certain frequencies are combined and larger parcels of airspace are worked by a single controller.  Some controllers are comfortable with things that others are not.  You get to know the voices on the frequency.  Perhaps they do as well. <img src='http://www.rapp.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Weather plays a big factor, too.  When LAX and/or Ontario are landing to the east, John Wayne to the north, etc. it causes a lot of headaches for the controllers, and that can impact our operations.  So sometimes we fly higher.  Or lower.  Or we fly a different region.  We cannot drop flies if the OAT is below freezing, and we have to fly the regions under VFR, although we do make use of IFR-to-VFR-on-top quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ron, got another question.
When you guys check in with SoCal departure, you usually say what &quot;region&quot; you&#039;re going to -- region 32, 36, or something like that. What are these regions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ron, got another question.<br />
When you guys check in with SoCal departure, you usually say what &#8220;region&#8221; you&#8217;re going to &#8212; region 32, 36, or something like that. What are these regions?</p>
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		<title>By: Cockpit Video Producers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cockpit Video Producers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just love the KingAir! I used to fly on the 350 series once and it was superb! A very good story btw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love the KingAir! I used to fly on the 350 series once and it was superb! A very good story btw!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/03/a-day-at-medfly/comment-page-1/#comment-51483</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification, Ian!</description>
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		<title>By: Ian Walters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to correct/clarify a few of the points made in this blog.  The Medfly Preventive Release Program is as stated &quot;preventative&quot; and not used to &quot;control&quot; an established fly population.  There is not at this time any infestation within the program boundaries.  If there were, we would establish an &quot;eradicative&quot; program but at no time are we &quot;controlling&quot; a population.  The Medfly is known to affect around 260 different crops, around 170 of which are grown in California.  The cost of the program varies, but is currently around 13 million dollars annually.  If medfly were to become permanently established in California, the estimated losses would approach 2 billion annually.  It was not Malathion that affected vehicle&#039;s paint but rather the sugary bait mixed with the pesticide.  Sterile insect technique has not replaced the use of pesticides but is rather a component of integrated pest management.  If a infestation of Mediterranean or Mexican fruit fly is detected within the state, an organic compound, Spinosad, is applied by ground to the target area to knockdown the population and sterile male flies are released by air to mate with fertile female flies.  Dynamic Aviation is contracted by the USDA, not the CDFA.  Also, responding to another posted reply, K&amp;K Aircraft was the former name of Dynamic Aviation and readers should know that DC-3s were utilized for mosquito, not medfly, control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to correct/clarify a few of the points made in this blog.  The Medfly Preventive Release Program is as stated &#8220;preventative&#8221; and not used to &#8220;control&#8221; an established fly population.  There is not at this time any infestation within the program boundaries.  If there were, we would establish an &#8220;eradicative&#8221; program but at no time are we &#8220;controlling&#8221; a population.  The Medfly is known to affect around 260 different crops, around 170 of which are grown in California.  The cost of the program varies, but is currently around 13 million dollars annually.  If medfly were to become permanently established in California, the estimated losses would approach 2 billion annually.  It was not Malathion that affected vehicle&#8217;s paint but rather the sugary bait mixed with the pesticide.  Sterile insect technique has not replaced the use of pesticides but is rather a component of integrated pest management.  If a infestation of Mediterranean or Mexican fruit fly is detected within the state, an organic compound, Spinosad, is applied by ground to the target area to knockdown the population and sterile male flies are released by air to mate with fertile female flies.  Dynamic Aviation is contracted by the USDA, not the CDFA.  Also, responding to another posted reply, K&amp;K Aircraft was the former name of Dynamic Aviation and readers should know that DC-3s were utilized for mosquito, not medfly, control.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Richard -- I&#039;m glad you enjoy the sight and sound of our King Airs!  We try hard to abate as much of the noise as possible, especially since we launch out of Los Alamitos as early as 7:30 a.m.

Anyway, in answer to your question, yes, Dynamic used to operate Beech 18s out of that base.  They were turbine conversions, meaning the standard radial engines were replaced with PT-6A turboprops.  They got rid of the last of them about two years ago.  I think the reason was because parts were getting hard to obtain.  Beech stopped making the -18 a long, long time ago, whereas the King Air is still in production.

Dynamic also operated DC-3s converted for spraying, if you can believe that.  I wish I would have had the opportunity to fly the Beech 18s -- they look like a lot of fun!

A lot of Dynamic airplanes used to have &quot;K&amp;K Aircraft&quot; written on them.  I&#039;m not sure what the relationship is, but I think it was the precursor to Dynamic Aviation.  Dynamic is involved in many types of operation.  Oil spill recovery, aerial data acquisition, mosquito spraying, you name it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Richard &#8212; I&#8217;m glad you enjoy the sight and sound of our King Airs!  We try hard to abate as much of the noise as possible, especially since we launch out of Los Alamitos as early as 7:30 a.m.</p>
<p>Anyway, in answer to your question, yes, Dynamic used to operate Beech 18s out of that base.  They were turbine conversions, meaning the standard radial engines were replaced with PT-6A turboprops.  They got rid of the last of them about two years ago.  I think the reason was because parts were getting hard to obtain.  Beech stopped making the -18 a long, long time ago, whereas the King Air is still in production.</p>
<p>Dynamic also operated DC-3s converted for spraying, if you can believe that.  I wish I would have had the opportunity to fly the Beech 18s &#8212; they look like a lot of fun!</p>
<p>A lot of Dynamic airplanes used to have &#8220;K&amp;K Aircraft&#8221; written on them.  I&#8217;m not sure what the relationship is, but I think it was the precursor to Dynamic Aviation.  Dynamic is involved in many types of operation.  Oil spill recovery, aerial data acquisition, mosquito spraying, you name it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live one block north of the base, and see/hear you guys coming and going all day. I used to wonder what your operation was (my first guess was training), but then I started listening to the tower freq and heard your &quot;medfly&quot; callsign. A little Internet searching revealed what you do, but this blog has taught me lots more, and is very interesting. Thanks!
  I&#039;m an inactive private pilot, but still an airplane nut, and am envious of your job. I haven&#039;t flown in years, and really miss it.
  I have a couple of questions. Did Dynamic used to fly Beech 18&#039;s, or something like it? I seem to recall seeing them with &quot;K&amp;E Aircraft&quot; painted on the side. What&#039;s the story there? Who is K&amp;E Aircraft?
  Thanks again for a very interesting post! Loved the photos, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live one block north of the base, and see/hear you guys coming and going all day. I used to wonder what your operation was (my first guess was training), but then I started listening to the tower freq and heard your &#8220;medfly&#8221; callsign. A little Internet searching revealed what you do, but this blog has taught me lots more, and is very interesting. Thanks!<br />
  I&#8217;m an inactive private pilot, but still an airplane nut, and am envious of your job. I haven&#8217;t flown in years, and really miss it.<br />
  I have a couple of questions. Did Dynamic used to fly Beech 18&#8217;s, or something like it? I seem to recall seeing them with &#8220;K&#038;E Aircraft&#8221; painted on the side. What&#8217;s the story there? Who is K&#038;E Aircraft?<br />
  Thanks again for a very interesting post! Loved the photos, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I&#039;m glad you found my site!  I also fly out of Sunrise Aviation at SNA (the Decathlons, Pitts, and Extra coming and going from the Blockhouse, as well as other airplanes).  So I&#039;ve probably talked to you on a hundred different occasions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I&#8217;m glad you found my site!  I also fly out of Sunrise Aviation at SNA (the Decathlons, Pitts, and Extra coming and going from the Blockhouse, as well as other airplanes).  So I&#8217;ve probably talked to you on a hundred different occasions!</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a controller at SoCal TRACON, i have been talking to you guys for years (the regions worked by 124.65, 127.2, 121.3 and 124.1), and this post taught me more than i ever knew about your operatioin. thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a controller at SoCal TRACON, i have been talking to you guys for years (the regions worked by 124.65, 127.2, 121.3 and 124.1), and this post taught me more than i ever knew about your operatioin. thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Terminals and Taxiways</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terminals and Taxiways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Flying for Medfly- Ron Rapp&#8217;s Day Job...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#8217;ve heard of people flying for the Medfly program a number of times here in Southern California, and I knew that there was a large base flying out of Los Alamitos Army Airfield, but I never actually knew what it meant to fly for Medfly.  I rece...</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve heard of people flying for the Medfly program a number of times here in Southern California, and I knew that there was a large base flying out of Los Alamitos Army Airfield, but I never actually knew what it meant to fly for Medfly.  I rece&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific post, I learned lots of new stuff from this one!  :)

Combating nature with nature - and AIRPLANES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific post, I learned lots of new stuff from this one!  <img src='http://www.rapp.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Combating nature with nature &#8211; and AIRPLANES!</p>
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		<title>By: Best of the web &#124; Golf Hotel Whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of the web &#124; Golf Hotel Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Day at Medfly. Ron Rapp of the House of Rapp blog has posted an interesting entry about a day in his life as a pilot in California whose job it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Day at Medfly. Ron Rapp of the House of Rapp blog has posted an interesting entry about a day in his life as a pilot in California whose job it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: M. J</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and a very interesting subject</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and a very interesting subject</p>
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