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		<title>By: Manish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article..however, I have to quibble with you on a few points:

You wrote:

Shifted costs from where? If these costs were previously borne by the Federal government, they weren&#039;t paid for by the tooth fairy. They were paid for by the taxpayers. What does it matter whether they are funded via Federal or state government?

I say:

Taxes collected by the federal government are progressive in nature, thus tax cuts help the people making the most..which is fair enough since they pay the most taxes.  However, state and local taxes are more regressive in nature.  This is due to greater reliance on property taxes and sales tax.  Thus, a tax cut at the federal level that is made up by tax increases at the state and local level end up benefitting wealthier people and hurt poorer people.  This one is particularly so, since it also lowered taxes on dividends and capital gains.

There is also the largest un-funded mandate in history aka No Child Left Behind.  The state and local governments didn&#039;t ask for this legislation and because it was under-funded have to know bear the burden of paying for it.

You wrote:

It&#039;s a failing of state governments to adhere to even the slightest semblance of fiscal responsibility.

I say:

Are you thus implying that the Bush Administration is adhering to some semblence of fiscal responsibility?  The only difference is that most of the governors have to balance their books..Bush has no such requirement as President. See this:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107415,00.html&quot;&gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107415,00.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article..however, I have to quibble with you on a few points:</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>Shifted costs from where? If these costs were previously borne by the Federal government, they weren&#8217;t paid for by the tooth fairy. They were paid for by the taxpayers. What does it matter whether they are funded via Federal or state government?</p>
<p>I say:</p>
<p>Taxes collected by the federal government are progressive in nature, thus tax cuts help the people making the most..which is fair enough since they pay the most taxes.  However, state and local taxes are more regressive in nature.  This is due to greater reliance on property taxes and sales tax.  Thus, a tax cut at the federal level that is made up by tax increases at the state and local level end up benefitting wealthier people and hurt poorer people.  This one is particularly so, since it also lowered taxes on dividends and capital gains.</p>
<p>There is also the largest un-funded mandate in history aka No Child Left Behind.  The state and local governments didn&#8217;t ask for this legislation and because it was under-funded have to know bear the burden of paying for it.</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a failing of state governments to adhere to even the slightest semblance of fiscal responsibility.</p>
<p>I say:</p>
<p>Are you thus implying that the Bush Administration is adhering to some semblence of fiscal responsibility?  The only difference is that most of the governors have to balance their books..Bush has no such requirement as President. See this:<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107415,00.html">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107415,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent comments!  I hadn&#039;t considered the difference between federal and state taxes in that respect.

It might be worth mentioning that paying taxes to the state rather than federal government has the revenue-enhancing effect of allowing for fewer &quot;loopholes&quot;, which means wealthier taxpayers might not be able to avoid as much tax as they otherwise would if they were paying on a federal return.

Re: &quot;No Child Left Behind&quot;, I&#039;m not overly familiar with it.  But if the feds mandate it, they should fund it.

Regarding the budget, I agree that spending is out of control.  Part of it is unavoidable--the war on terrorism is ruinously expensive, and it comes at a time when revenues are down.  The Fox article you referenced says:

&quot;Much of the increase stems from the fight against terrorism and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also expanding relentlessly have been huge programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which grow automatically with inflation, higher medical costs and more beneficiaries.&quot;

Entitlement spending now comprises well over half the federal budget.  According to the latest CBO figres, the combined spending on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is projected to reach 15 percent of GDP by 2030 and 20 percent of GDP by 2075--that&#039;s the size of the entire federal budget!  For Social Security, the cost increase is projected to be up to 6.6 percent of GDP by 2075.

The entitlements need to be scaled way back.  And the 31% increase in discretionary spending is inexcusable.  The pork needs to go away, too.

Finally, I would say that there is some good news in the tapering off of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.  As those countries are stabilized and their governments are formed, we will be able to withdraw many (even most) of our troops, saving a lot of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent comments!  I hadn&#8217;t considered the difference between federal and state taxes in that respect.</p>
<p>It might be worth mentioning that paying taxes to the state rather than federal government has the revenue-enhancing effect of allowing for fewer &#8220;loopholes&#8221;, which means wealthier taxpayers might not be able to avoid as much tax as they otherwise would if they were paying on a federal return.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;No Child Left Behind&#8221;, I&#8217;m not overly familiar with it.  But if the feds mandate it, they should fund it.</p>
<p>Regarding the budget, I agree that spending is out of control.  Part of it is unavoidable&#8211;the war on terrorism is ruinously expensive, and it comes at a time when revenues are down.  The Fox article you referenced says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Much of the increase stems from the fight against terrorism and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also expanding relentlessly have been huge programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which grow automatically with inflation, higher medical costs and more beneficiaries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Entitlement spending now comprises well over half the federal budget.  According to the latest CBO figres, the combined spending on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is projected to reach 15 percent of GDP by 2030 and 20 percent of GDP by 2075&#8211;that&#8217;s the size of the entire federal budget!  For Social Security, the cost increase is projected to be up to 6.6 percent of GDP by 2075.</p>
<p>The entitlements need to be scaled way back.  And the 31% increase in discretionary spending is inexcusable.  The pork needs to go away, too.</p>
<p>Finally, I would say that there is some good news in the tapering off of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.  As those countries are stabilized and their governments are formed, we will be able to withdraw many (even most) of our troops, saving a lot of money.</p>
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		<title>By: aunt betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>aunt betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps our country could save a lot of money and use it to get some of the proposed, or is that the supposed, benefits for children, health, social security, etc. if all of those in congress,state and federal, had the same ground rules that the taxpayers have. such as; had to be on social security, couldn&#039;t vote their own raises, could not retire after their terms with benefit packages, and have the same restrictions that we all have, don&#039;t you think that they would be a little more concerned with the welfare of all? they might even take  different approachs to the lobbey fronts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps our country could save a lot of money and use it to get some of the proposed, or is that the supposed, benefits for children, health, social security, etc. if all of those in congress,state and federal, had the same ground rules that the taxpayers have. such as; had to be on social security, couldn&#8217;t vote their own raises, could not retire after their terms with benefit packages, and have the same restrictions that we all have, don&#8217;t you think that they would be a little more concerned with the welfare of all? they might even take  different approachs to the lobbey fronts.</p>
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		<title>By: shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an interesting article on federal spending here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an interesting article on federal spending here</p>
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		<title>By: Blogs for Bush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogs for Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Dean Tax&lt;/strong&gt;
Written by guest blogger Ron Rapp of The House of Rapp. ________________________ The Dean campaign has a new kid on the block: BushTax.com. Many Dean supporters refer to it as gospel on how the Bush administration has covertly taxed every...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Dean Tax</strong><br />
Written by guest blogger Ron Rapp of The House of Rapp. ________________________ The Dean campaign has a new kid on the block: BushTax.com. Many Dean supporters refer to it as gospel on how the Bush administration has covertly taxed every&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Margolis Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.rapp.org/archives/2004/01/the_dean_tax/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Margolis Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Refuting Howard Dean&#039;s &quot;Bushtax.com&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
Ron Rapp&#039;s debunking of Howard Dean&#039;s &quot;Bush Tax&quot; site is well worth the read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Refuting Howard Dean&#8217;s &#8220;Bushtax.com&#8221;</strong><br />
Ron Rapp&#8217;s debunking of Howard Dean&#8217;s &#8220;Bush Tax&#8221; site is well worth the read!</p>
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		<title>By: HobbsOnline</title>
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		<dc:creator>HobbsOnline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rapping Dean&lt;/strong&gt;
A few weeks ago, one of my regular readers sent an email urging me to check out a new website from the Howard Dean slime factory campaign called BushTax.com, which portrays the Bush administration&#039;s tax policies as a horrible assault...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rapping Dean</strong><br />
A few weeks ago, one of my regular readers sent an email urging me to check out a new website from the Howard Dean slime factory campaign called BushTax.com, which portrays the Bush administration&#8217;s tax policies as a horrible assault&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HobbsOnline</title>
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		<dc:creator>HobbsOnline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kerry Recycles Dean&#039;s Lie&lt;/strong&gt;
Sen. John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential almost-nominee, is recyling a lie spread back in January by Howard Dean. Kerry - the F stands for False Witness - said in remarks to the AFL-CIO Executive Council Meeting:If you add up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kerry Recycles Dean&#8217;s Lie</strong><br />
Sen. John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential almost-nominee, is recyling a lie spread back in January by Howard Dean. Kerry &#8211; the F stands for False Witness &#8211; said in remarks to the AFL-CIO Executive Council Meeting:If you add up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blogs for Bush</title>
		<link>http://www.rapp.org/archives/2004/01/the_dean_tax/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogs for Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kerry Recycles Dean&#039;s &quot;Bush Tax&quot; Lie&lt;/strong&gt;
Sen. John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential almost-nominee, is recyling a lie spread back in January by Howard Dean. Kerry - the F stands for False Witness - said in remarks to the AFL-CIO Executive Council Meeting:If you add up...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kerry Recycles Dean&#8217;s &#8220;Bush Tax&#8221; Lie</strong><br />
Sen. John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential almost-nominee, is recyling a lie spread back in January by Howard Dean. Kerry &#8211; the F stands for False Witness &#8211; said in remarks to the AFL-CIO Executive Council Meeting:If you add up&#8230;</p>
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